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Improved Clinch vs. Palomar Knot | Line to Lure Knot Wars | Tom Rowland Podcast Ep. 629

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In this How 2 Tuesday segment, Tom Rowland tests the improved clinch knot against the Palomar knot for line-to-lure connections using 20-pound Daiwa fluorocarbon tied to a three-ought Gamakatsu circle hook with a NexTech force tester. The Palomar knot achieved 18.8 pounds of breaking strength, while the six-turn improved clinch reached 17.34 pounds—a difference of over one pound that could determine whether you land the fish of a lifetime or watch it swim away. If you've been relying on the classic fisherman's knot your grandfather taught you, this test reveals whether you're leaving strength on the table. Tom continues his knot wars series by moving beyond braid-to-fluorocarbon connections to focus on one of fishing's most critical junctions: how you attach your hook or lure to the end of your line.

Which knot is stronger for line-to-lure connections: improved clinch or Palomar?

The Palomar knot tested stronger than the improved clinch knot for line-to-lure connections. Using 20-pound Daiwa fluorocarbon tied to a three-ought Gamakatsu circle hook, the Palomar achieved 18.8 pounds of breaking strength compared to the improved clinch's 17.34 pounds when tested with a NexTech force tester.

Who is Tom Rowland?

Tom Rowland is the host of the Tom Rowland Podcast and a professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys. He conducts systematic knot testing using force measurement equipment to help anglers optimize their tackle rigging and control the controllable aspects of fishing.

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Moving Beyond Braid-to-Fluorocarbon: The Line-to-Lure Challenge

After establishing that the FG knot dominated the braid-to-fluorocarbon category in previous knot wars episodes, Tom shifts focus to an equally critical connection point that every angler faces on the water. The line-to-lure connection determines whether that trophy fish stays buttoned or breaks off at the worst possible moment. Tom introduces this new testing phase by explaining that he'll examine knots that cinch tight against the hook eye—starting with two of the most commonly used options. The improved clinch, often called the fisherman's knot, is what most people learned as kids from their grandfathers. The Palomar has earned a reputation among bass anglers as a go-to choice for its reliability. But which one actually performs better under measurable force? The testing methodology and setup begins at 0:44.

The Testing Protocol: Six-Turn Improved Clinch vs. Palomar

Tom details his consistent testing approach using 20-pound Daiwa fluorocarbon tied to a three-ought Gamakatsu circle hook. For the improved clinch, he uses six wraps, threads through the eye, then back through the larger loop before lubricating and pulling tight. The Palomar involves doubling the line, tying an overhand, looping back over the hook, and pulling everything snug. Tom emphasizes the importance of wearing protective eyewear during these tests because when a hook breaks under extreme tension, it becomes a projectile that could go anywhere. His NexTech force tester records the maximum breaking strength before failure, providing objective data rather than anecdotal impressions. Watch Tom tie and test the Palomar knot starting at 4:44.

See the exact moment each knot fails under tension and what the force tester reveals

The Results: One Pound That Changes Everything

When Tom pulls the Palomar to failure, the scale records 18.8 pounds—impressive performance on 20-pound test line. After resetting his equipment and donning safety glasses again, he tests the six-turn improved clinch. The hook breaks and the line snaps, but at 17.34 pounds of force. That 1.46-pound difference might seem small in percentage terms, but Tom points out that this exact margin could separate winning a tournament from losing it, or landing a fish of a lifetime versus watching it break off. The Palomar emerges as the stronger connection for this specific application. Tom notes that the improved clinch broke well into the fluorocarbon leader itself, indicating the knot held reasonably well, but the Palomar simply outperformed it. The dramatic test comparisons happen at 5:45 and 7:21.

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Controlling the Controllable: Why This Testing Matters

Tom drives home the philosophy that separates great fishermen from average ones: controlling what you can control. You can't control the weather, fish behavior, or water conditions, but you absolutely control how you rig your tackle. The choice between a stronger knot and a weaker one is entirely in your hands. Tom encourages listeners to tie these knots themselves and test them on their own scales, acknowledging that individual tying technique might produce slightly different results. The goal is finding the strongest knot you can tie consistently—not just copying someone else's preference without verification. He mentions his knot course on Waypoint TV, which teaches the Palomar, improved clinch, and over 40 other knots for anglers who want comprehensive instruction. Tom's complete philosophy on preparation and testing starts at 9:01.

This knot wars series continues with more head-to-head matchups

Don't miss the testing that could change how you rig for your next trip

Key Takeaways

  • The Palomar knot achieved 18.8 pounds of breaking strength on 20-pound fluorocarbon, outperforming the improved clinch by 1.46 pounds—a margin that could determine landing or losing a trophy fish
  • Tom uses a six-turn improved clinch with proper lubrication and a NexTech force tester to ensure consistent, objective measurements rather than relying on anecdotal evidence
  • The FG knot emerged as the winner in previous braid-to-fluorocarbon testing, while the J knot surprised Tom by performing better than expected
  • Great anglers control the controllable—and knot selection is one of the most controllable aspects of fishing preparation that directly impacts success on the water
  • Tom encourages anglers to test knots themselves on their own equipment, as individual tying technique can affect strength results and personal consistency matters more than copying someone else's preference
  • Safety equipment like protective eyewear is essential during knot strength testing because hooks become unpredictable projectiles when they fail under extreme tension
  • The knot wars series continues with more line-to-lure comparisons, expanding beyond the improved clinch versus Palomar matchup based on listener suggestions

Final Thoughts from Tom

This knot wars series has been fantastic, and I really appreciate everyone who's been sending suggestions to the text line or emailing the show. Your input is helping shape which matchups we test next, and I'm working to incorporate as many of your requests as possible. The improved clinch is such a foundational knot—it's what most of us learned first—so seeing it go head-to-head against the Palomar really highlights how much room for improvement exists in our tackle rigging.

That one pound of difference between 17.34 and 18.8 might not sound like much when you're sitting at home, but when you're fighting a fish that's testing every ounce of your setup, that's the margin between success and heartbreak. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: great fishermen control the controllable. You can't control whether the fish are biting, but you can absolutely control whether your knots are as strong as they can be.

If you want to learn how to tie these knots properly, my course on Waypoint TV covers the Palomar, improved clinch, and over 40 other essential knots. But more importantly, get yourself a scale and start testing. Find out what works best with your tying style and your specific gear. This episode is short, focused, and packed with actionable information that could change your rigging strategy. Give it a listen and let me know which knot matchup you want to see next.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the strongest knot for tying line to a lure?

Based on Tom Rowland's testing with a NexTech force tester, the Palomar knot proved stronger than the improved clinch for line-to-lure connections. The Palomar achieved 18.8 pounds of breaking strength on 20-pound fluorocarbon versus the improved clinch's 17.34 pounds when tied to a three-ought Gamakatsu circle hook.

How many turns should you use for an improved clinch knot?

Tom Rowland uses six turns for the improved clinch knot in his testing protocol. After wrapping six times, he threads the tag end through the eye loop, then back through the larger loop created, lubricates the knot, and pulls it tight to ensure consistent results.

What knot won Tom Rowland's braid-to-fluorocarbon knot wars?

The FG knot won Tom's braid-to-fluorocarbon testing as the strongest connection. The J knot surprisingly performed better than expected, while the FG knot and double uni emerged as the two strongest options in that category.

How do you test fishing knot strength at home?

Tom Rowland uses a NexTech force tester to measure knot strength objectively. The device pulls the connection to failure while recording the maximum force achieved. He recommends anglers test their own knots with similar equipment and wear protective eyewear, as hooks become projectiles when they break under tension.

Why does controlling the controllable matter in fishing?

Tom Rowland emphasizes that great fishermen control what they can control. While you can't control weather, fish behavior, or conditions, you can completely control your tackle rigging. Choosing stronger knots and testing them systematically is one of the most controllable factors that directly impacts whether you land or lose fish.

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Tom Rowland

Tom Rowland is the host of the Tom Rowland Podcast and a professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys. In this How 2 Tuesday segment, Tom continues his knot wars series by testing the improved clinch knot against the Palomar knot for line-to-lure connections using a NexTech force tester. Tom emphasizes that great fishermen control the controllable, and knot selection is one of the most controllable aspects of fishing preparation. He offers a comprehensive knot course on Waypoint TV covering over 40 essential fishing knots. Tom encourages listeners to send knot testing suggestions to the text line at 305-930-7346 or email podcast@saltwaterexperience.com.

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