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Fly Line Welded Loop Strength Test: Can You Trust Manufacturer Loops? | Tom Rowland Podcast Ep. 880

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In Episode 880 of the Tom Rowland Podcast, Tom tests the strength and reliability of welded loops on fly lines, specifically examining whether anglers should trust the manufacturer's loop that comes pre-installed on modern fly lines like Cortland. Many experienced fly fishermen have never tested these welded loops and simply don't know how strong they are. In this How 2 Tuesday episode, Tom puts a brand new Cortland fly line to the test, measuring exactly how much force the welded loop can withstand and revealing whether it's stronger than the fly line itself. The results might surprise you and could change how you rig your fly fishing setup for tarpon, permit, and other saltwater species.

How Strong Are Welded Loops on Fly Lines?

Tom's test of a Cortland fly line's welded loop showed it broke at 46.97 pounds, with the failure occurring in the fly line itself rather than the welded loop. This demonstrates that the manufacturer's welded loop is actually stronger than the fly line core, making it reliable for any tippet under 40-pound class including typical tarpon setups with 12, 16, 20, or 30-pound test.

Who is Tom Rowland?

Tom Rowland is the host of the Tom Rowland Podcast, a show focused on fishing strategy, techniques, and the disciplines that transfer across outdoor pursuits. He specializes in saltwater fly fishing and regularly tests gear and knots to help anglers make informed decisions about their tackle and rigging methods.

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Why Fly Fishermen Don't Trust Welded Loops

For years, experienced fly anglers have approached the welded loops on modern fly lines with skepticism. These factory-installed loops have become standard on most quality fly lines, appearing on both the backing side and the leader side of lines from manufacturers like Cortland. Despite their convenience for creating loop-to-loop connections with leaders, many seasoned fishermen have simply never tested them to failure. They don't know if these welded loops will hold up to a charging tarpon or whether the connection point represents a weak link in their system. Tom addresses this exact concern by putting a brand new Cortland fly line through a systematic strength test. The welded loop wasn't fatigued or stressed before testing—it came straight out of the package. What Tom discovers about where the failure point actually occurs could change how you think about rigging your fly line. The complete welded loop strength test begins at 02:28.

The Loop-to-Loop Connection Method

Tom explains that there are many ways to attach your fly line to your leader, but the loop-to-loop connection has become one of the most popular methods among serious fly fishermen. This approach involves using the welded loop manufactured into the fly line and connecting it to a double overhand loop or surgeon's loop tied in the butt section of your leader. The beauty of this system is that it creates a relatively smooth connection that flows through your rod guides without hanging up, while also allowing you to quickly change leaders when needed. The question that haunts many anglers is whether they should trust that manufactured welded loop or cut it off and create their own connection. Tom's testing methodology is straightforward—he uses a brand new Cortland fly line with welded loops on both ends and applies increasing force until something breaks. The setup mimics real fishing conditions where your tippet might be anywhere from 12 to 40-pound test. Tom explains the loop-to-loop rigging method at 01:49.

Watch Tom's complete welded loop strength test and see exactly where the failure occurs

The Test Results: 46.97 Pounds

When Tom finally pushes the Cortland fly line to its breaking point, the numbers tell a clear story. The welded loop held firm all the way to 46.97 pounds of force—and here's the critical detail—the actual welded loop didn't fail. Instead, the fly line itself broke. This reveals something important about the engineering of modern fly lines: the welded loop is actually stronger than the core material of the line. For practical fishing applications, this means if you're using 12, 16, 20, 30, or even 40-pound class tippet, the welded loop will never be your weak point. The tippet will break long before the welded loop fails. Tom notes one interesting limitation in fly line manufacturing—nowhere on the fly line packaging does it state what the breaking strength of the core actually is, which could vary between different models and manufacturers. He plans to test additional fly lines to see if this pattern holds across brands. The moment the fly line breaks and Tom analyzes the failure point starts at 03:15.

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What This Means for Your Tarpon Setup

The practical implications of this test extend directly to how you should rig your fly fishing setup, especially for powerful saltwater species like tarpon. Tom specifically mentions tarpon fishing scenarios where anglers might be using heavier tippets—even up to 100-pound test in some extreme situations. For the vast majority of fly fishermen using standard tarpon class tippets, the welded loop on a quality fly line like Cortland will never be a concern. Your 16-pound tippet for smaller tarpon or your 20-pound class setup for larger fish will always break before the welded loop fails. This testing should give confidence to anglers who have been cutting off their welded loops and creating custom connections. Unless you're in that rare 100-pound test category, you can trust the manufacturer's loop. The smooth profile of the welded loop also means better flow through your guides during the cast, which can improve your presentation and distance. Tom emphasizes that he'll continue testing different fly line brands to build a more complete picture. Tom discusses the tippet strength implications at 03:35.

This episode delivers practical rigging knowledge you can use on your next fishing trip.

Perfect for fly fishermen who want to make informed decisions about their tackle

Key Takeaways

  • The welded loop on a Cortland fly line broke at 46.97 pounds, but the failure occurred in the fly line itself, not the welded loop—proving the loop is stronger than the core material
  • Loop-to-loop connections using the manufacturer's welded loop and a surgeon's loop in your leader create a smooth, reliable connection for saltwater fly fishing
  • For any tippet under 40-pound test—including standard 12, 16, 20, and 30-pound tarpon setups—the welded loop will never be your weak point
  • Many experienced fly fishermen have never tested welded loops and don't trust them, but Tom's testing shows they can fish with confidence using factory loops
  • Fly line manufacturers don't typically list the core breaking strength on their packaging, which means testing multiple brands is necessary to understand their true limits
  • The welded loop wasn't fatigued before testing—it came straight from a brand new fly line, representing real-world conditions
  • Only anglers using extreme 100-pound test tippet for tarpon would need to worry about whether their fly line and welded loop could handle the pressure

Final Thoughts from Tom

I've talked to countless fly fishermen over the years who have cut off their welded loops without ever knowing whether they needed to. There's this prevailing skepticism in the fly fishing community about trusting manufacturer connections, and I get it—when you're fighting a fish of a lifetime, you want to know every part of your system is solid. But data matters, and this test gives us real numbers to work with.

What surprised me most wasn't just that the welded loop held to almost 47 pounds, but that it outlasted the fly line itself. That tells me the engineering on these loops is sound. For the typical saltwater fly fisherman chasing tarpon, permit, or bonefish with standard class tippets, this should put the concern to rest. Your tippet is going to break before that welded loop ever fails.

I'm planning to test more fly lines from different manufacturers because I want to see if this pattern holds across the board. But based on this Cortland test, you can fish with confidence using those factory welded loops. This is practical information that can save you time on the water and give you peace of mind when a big fish takes off on you. Listen to the whole thing and see the test results for yourself.

Frequently Asked Questions

How strong are welded loops on fly lines?

Based on Tom's testing of a Cortland fly line, the welded loop held to 46.97 pounds before the fly line itself broke. The welded loop proved stronger than the core material of the fly line, making it reliable for any tippet under 40-pound class including standard tarpon setups.

Should I trust the manufacturer's welded loop on my fly line?

Yes, Tom's test demonstrates that welded loops on quality fly lines like Cortland are stronger than the fly line core itself. Unless you're using extreme tippet over 40 pounds, the welded loop will not be your weak point—your tippet will break first.

What is a loop-to-loop connection in fly fishing?

A loop-to-loop connection uses the welded loop on your fly line connected to a double overhand loop or surgeon's loop tied in the butt section of your leader. This creates a smooth, strong connection that flows through rod guides and allows quick leader changes.

What tippet strength is safe with a welded loop?

Tom's testing shows that 12, 16, 20, 30, and even 40-pound class tippets are well within the safe range for welded loops. The loop broke at 46.97 pounds, with the actual failure occurring in the fly line, not the loop itself.

Do fly line manufacturers list breaking strength?

No, Tom notes that fly line manufacturers typically don't state the breaking strength of the line core on their packaging. This makes independent testing important to understand the true limits of different fly line models and brands.

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