A welded loop is the manufacturer's pre-made loop on the end of a fly line that you use for a loop-to-loop connection to your leader, and many fly fishermen simply do not trust it. On this How 2 Tuesday I test the welded loop on a brand-new fly line to settle whether you should trust it. The question is the strongest connection between fly line and leader, and whether that factory loop is up to the job.
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On the fly line I tested, a brand-new Cortland, the manufacturer's welded loop broke at 46.97 pounds. The important thing is that the welded loop was not fatigued at all, it actually broke down in the fly line itself. So on this particular line the loop is stronger than the line, which means you can have real confidence in it.
Yes, based on this test you can feel confident with the welded loops. Unless you are using 100-pound test for tarpon, if you are fishing 12, 16, 20, even 30 or 40-pound class tippet, the fly line is going to be stronger than any part of your leader. So the welded loop is not going to be your weak point. The connection holds.
Many fly fishermen who have been at it a long time simply do not trust the manufacturer's loop. A lot of people have never actually tested one, so they do not know how strong it is, and they assume the factory loop is the weak link. Testing it is exactly why I did this episode, to replace that assumption with a real number.
A loop-to-loop is a very popular way to attach your fly line to your leader. You use the welded or manufactured loop on the fly line, then tie a double overhand loop or a surgeon's loop in the butt section of the leader, and connect the two loops together. You want the strongest connection that also passes smoothly through the guides.
Not necessarily. One thing about fly lines is that nowhere on the line does it state the strength of the core, so that can differ from line to line. I tested a Cortland here and found the loop stronger than the line, but I will be testing a lot of different fly lines, because core strength varies and that affects where the connection breaks.
I test fly line and leader connections across this series, and I keep a free knot guide at tomrowlandpodcast.com with the breaking strengths and videos for everything I have tied and tested. It lets you compare the welded loop to other ways of joining your fly line and leader so you can pick what you trust.
It is fly season and a lot of people are rigging up right now, and the loop-to-loop with a manufacturer's welded loop is one of the most popular connections out there. Plenty of experienced fly fishermen just do not trust it, and most have never tested one. I get into why that matters in the episode, so press play in the player above.
I walk through each of these in the episode. Press play in the player above.
The welded loop on the new Cortland broke at 46.97 pounds, and it was not fatigued at all, it broke down in the fly line. So on this line the loop is stronger than the line itself. For anything short of 100-pound tarpon setups, that is more than enough. I break it down in the episode, so press play in the player above.
Here is the catch: nowhere on a fly line does it tell you the strength of the core, so it varies from line to line. That is why I will keep testing different fly lines rather than assuming one result covers them all. I explain what to watch for in the episode, so press play in the player above.
On this Cortland, the welded loop is stronger than the line, so you can rig your loop-to-loop with confidence for normal tippet classes.
Just remember core strength is not printed on the line, so I will keep testing more of them. Grab the free knot guide at tomrowlandpodcast.com to compare connections. Press play in the player above.
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I'm Tom Rowland, a professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys, host of the Tom Rowland Podcast, and the longtime host of the Saltwater Experience television show. On the podcast's How 2 Tuesday series I break down one practical skill or lesson at a time, from fishing technique and gear to the habits that make you a better angler, in short, focused episodes you can put to use right away.
Tom Rowland Podcast — Episode 880: Welded Loop Fly Line Test (How 2 Tuesday)
Tom Rowland tests “the connection between your fly line and your leader” — the loop-to-loop with a manufacturer’s welded loop many fly fishermen “simply don’t trust,” a brand-new Cortland where “the manufacturer’s loop broke at 46.97 pounds,” and why “nowhere on this fly line does it state” the strength of the core.
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Tom Rowland: Hey, everybody. This is how to Tuesday on the Tom Rowland podcast brought to you by Danco. And today, we're gonna be talking about fly fishing, specifically the connection between your fly line and your leader. It's season. A lot of people are doing this right now. And there's many ways that you can attach your fly line to your leader. You wanna go with the strongest that also has a smooth connection through the guides. This is a very popular way to to do it.
Tom Rowland: A loop to loop connection where you're using the welded loop or the manufactured loop by the fly line manufacturer. And then you're tying a, a double overhand loop or a surgeon's loop in the leader itself in the butt section. And then you're doing a loop to loop. What we're going to do is we are going to test this connection out.
Tom Rowland: Many fly fishermen that have been doing this for a long time simply don't trust the manufacturer's loop. They just don't know how strong it is. A lot of people have never tested it. And so that is what we're gonna do today.
Tom Rowland: We're gonna test the welded loop that comes on the end of most fly lines these days. Here is a brand new, Cortland. It has a welded loop on the back side of the line, and it also has a welded loop on the front side of the line. We're going to test and see how strong these welded loops are, if you should trust them or not. Here we go.
Tom Rowland: So the welded loop, the manufacturer's loop broke at 46.97 pounds on this particular fly line. The important thing to to see here is that this welded loop was not fatigued at all, and it broke actually in the fly line. So on this particular fly line, the loop is stronger than the line.
Tom Rowland: Unless you're using a 100 pound test for for your tarpon. If you're using twelve, sixteen, 20, even 30, even 40 pound class tippet, the fly line is going to be stronger than the any part of the leader. So you can feel confident, with the welded loops. So if you have a line like this Cortland that that comes with a welded loop, it is stronger than than the line itself.
Tom Rowland: Now the one thing about fly lines is nowhere on this fly line does it state what the core of this fly line, what the strength of the core of the fly line is. So that could differ, and we'll be testing a lot of different fly lines. But the welded loop is stronger than the line.
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