Tom Rowland, professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys and host of the Tom Rowland Podcast, unboxes and spools the Daiwa Certate 4000 spinning reel in this How 2 Tuesday episode. This high-end reel is his choice for permit fishing, and Tom walks through every step from opening the case to putting 175 yards of 20 pound braided line on the spool. You'll learn why he starts with monofilament backing instead of tying directly to the spool, how to tie a proper double uni knot connection, and what makes a line winder worth using even when you could spool it yourself for free. If you've ever wondered whether the tackle shop's $5 spooling fee is worth it, or if you're planning to spool your own high-end reels at home, this episode shows you exactly what to do.
How Do You Spool a Daiwa Certate 4000 Spinning Reel?
Start by backing the drag off and tying monofilament backing to the spool with a uni knot, as the Certate 4000 doesn't have a rubber gasket for grip. Put a small amount of bright monofilament on first, then connect braided line with a double uni knot. Tom spools 175 yards of 20 pound braid after the backing, maintaining an edge below the spool rim to reduce knots.
Who is Tom Rowland?
Tom Rowland is the host of the Tom Rowland Podcast and a professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys. In this How 2 Tuesday episode, Tom demonstrates his process for spooling spinning reels, specifically the Daiwa Certate 4000 which he uses for permit fishing in high salt environments.
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Why the Daiwa Certate 4000 is Tom's Permit Reel Choice
The Certate sits at the high end of Daiwa's spinning reel lineup, and Tom explains exactly why he chooses it for permit fishing. Permit fight incredibly hard, and the high salt environment of the Florida Keys demands equipment that can take serious punishment. The Certate 4000 comes in a premium carry case with the handle separate, and one feature stands out immediately: the automatic bail. While many high-end reels force you to manually close the bail, this one still has automatic closure when you turn the handle, making it perfect for anglers who don't know spin fishing well. Tom still closes it manually for perfect control, but that automatic feature means he can hand this reel to anyone. Tom's full unboxing and first impressions start at 00:01:48.
The Monofilament Backing Strategy for Reels Without Rubber Gaskets
Here's a problem many anglers have encountered: you spool 300 yards of braided line directly onto a smooth aluminum spool, then discover you can rotate all that line around the spool because braid is so slippery. Reel manufacturers started adding rubber gaskets to the spool for grip, but the Certate 4000 doesn't have one. Tom's solution is to start with monofilament backing. He ties it directly to the spool with a uni knot, creating an anchor point that grips the smooth aluminum. The key detail? Use bright chartreuse, orange, or pink monofilament so you can see it if it ever appears during a fight. If you see that bright backing coming off your reel, you know you're about to hear a pop. The backing technique and color choice explanation starts at 00:04:10.
Watch Tom demonstrate the complete spooling process from unboxing to finished reel
The Double Uni Knot Connection That Holds Everything Together
After spooling a small amount of monofilament backing, Tom connects the braided main line with a double uni knot. He demonstrates the exact technique: loop the braid over itself, wrap six times around, pull the tag end to cinch it down to the line, then repeat the same process on the monofilament side. The two knots cinch together when you pull hard on both lines. Tom emphasizes pulling really hard to seat the knot properly before trimming. This connection is critical because it joins your slippery braid to the grippy mono backing. The whole process takes less than a minute once you know the steps, but doing it correctly means the difference between a secure spool and one that slips under pressure. Tom ties and explains the double uni knot at 00:07:55.
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SubscribeLine Winder vs. Home Spooling: Why the Tackle Shop Method Matters
Tom acknowledges that very few people have a line winder at home, which raises the question: why pay the tackle shop five dollars to spool your reel when you could do it yourself for free? He uses a line winder for this demonstration to show exactly what that machine does and why it creates a superior result. The line winder holds the spool with adjustable tension, and a special tool makes the line lay back and forth across the reel spool evenly. Tom operates it with a foot pedal to control speed, and the counter shows exactly how many yards go on. The result: 175 yards of 20 pound braid spooled perfectly with proper tension and even distribution. He also reveals his philosophy on fill level—keeping it below the spool rim reduces knots, even though many anglers fill their reels higher. The line winder demonstration and why it matters starts at 00:03:26.
This is essential knowledge for any serious angler who spools their own reels.
The complete step-by-step process in one episode.
Key Takeaways
- The Daiwa Certate 4000 includes an automatic bail closure feature that makes it versatile for experienced and inexperienced anglers, even though Tom still prefers manual control
- Without a rubber gasket on the spool, braided line can slip around the entire spool—monofilament backing solves this problem by gripping the smooth aluminum
- Using bright chartreuse, orange, or pink monofilament backing serves as a visual warning system during long fights with big fish
- The double uni knot creates a secure connection between monofilament backing and braided main line when tied properly with six wraps on each side
- A line winder creates even distribution and proper tension that's difficult to achieve when spooling by hand at home
- Keeping line below the spool rim rather than filling it completely reduces the number of knots and tangles you'll experience
- Tom successfully spools 175 yards of 20 pound braid on the Certate 4000 with backing, creating the perfect permit fishing setup
Final Thoughts from Tom
This is one of those episodes where I wanted to show you exactly what I do when I'm setting up my own reels for serious fishing. The Certate 4000 is a beautiful piece of equipment, and it deserves to be spooled correctly. Too many people have lost fish because their line slipped on the spool or their knot failed under pressure.
The monofilament backing trick is something I learned after watching anglers struggle with braid spinning on smooth spools. That bright backing color has saved me more than once by giving me a visual warning that I'm down to the last few yards. And the double uni knot—once you practice it a few times, you can tie it in your sleep.
Whether you have access to a line winder or you're spooling at home, understanding these principles will help you set up your reels the right way. This is foundational stuff that makes the difference between losing the fish of a lifetime and landing it. Watch the whole thing, practice these knots, and get your reels ready for serious fishing.
Frequently Asked Questions
Why do you need monofilament backing on a spinning reel without a rubber gasket?
Braided line is extremely slippery and can rotate around a smooth aluminum spool, even with 300 yards spooled on. Monofilament backing grips the smooth spool surface and creates a secure anchor point. The braid connects to the mono with a double uni knot, preventing the entire spool of line from slipping during a fight.
What pound test line does Tom use on the Daiwa Certate 4000 for permit?
Tom spools 175 yards of 20 pound braided line on the Certate 4000, along with monofilament backing. He maintains an edge below the spool rim rather than filling it completely, which helps reduce knots and tangles during casting and fighting fish.
How do you tie a double uni knot to connect backing to braided line?
Start with the braid side and loop it over itself, then wrap six times around both lines. Pull the tag end to cinch the knot down. Repeat the same process on the monofilament side. The two knots cinch together when you pull hard on both lines, creating a secure connection between the backing and main line.
Does the Daiwa Certate have automatic or manual bail closure?
The Certate has both options. It features automatic bail closure when you turn the handle, making it user-friendly for less experienced anglers. However, it also opens and closes manually, allowing experienced anglers like Tom to close it by hand for perfect control over line management.
Why use bright colored monofilament for backing?
Chartreuse, orange, or pink backing serves as a visual warning system during a fight. If you see bright backing coming off the reel, you know you're down to your last few yards and about to run out of line. The backing isn't meant to be part of your fishing setup—it's like backing on a fly reel.
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Tom Rowland
Tom Rowland is the host of the Tom Rowland Podcast and a professional fishing guide based in the Florida Keys. In this How 2 Tuesday episode, Tom walks through the step-by-step process of unboxing and spooling the Daiwa Certate 4000 spinning reel, his choice for permit fishing. Tom's deep experience in high salt environments and with species like permit informs his tackle choices and maintenance practices. He shares practical knowledge gained from years of guiding clients and pursuing challenging gamefish in demanding conditions.
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