Tom Rowland, professional fishing guide and host of the Tom Rowland Podcast, demonstrates permit fishing techniques with live crab alongside Captain Scott Brown in the Florida Keys. In this How 2 Tuesday episode, Tom reveals the circle hook technique that increased his permit hookup rate from 50% to 95%, the exact method for hooking a crab to keep it alive longer, and the specific gear setup he relies on for targeting one of saltwater's most challenging species. Whether you're fishing the Keys or anywhere permit are found, this breakdown of rigging, hook placement, and tackle selection will change how you approach these fish with live bait.
What is the best hook for permit fishing with live crab?
A circle hook dramatically improves permit hookup rates. Tom Rowland uses a 3-ought short shank circle hook, specifically the Worldwide Sportsman or Gamakatsu octopus hook, which increased his hookup percentage from about 50% to approximately 95%. He matches hook size to crab size, using 4-ought for larger crabs and 3-ought for smaller crabs.
Who is Tom Rowland?
Tom Rowland is a professional fishing guide and host of the Tom Rowland Podcast. In this How 2 Tuesday episode, Tom demonstrates permit fishing techniques with live crab alongside Captain Scott Brown in the Florida Keys, sharing rigging methods and tackle setups from his years of guiding experience.
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Why Circle Hooks Changed Everything for Permit
Tom opens this tutorial with the single most important piece of permit fishing advice: switch to circle hooks. He's direct about the impact this one change made on his success rate. Before circle hooks, permit would grab the crab and he'd only hook about half of them. The other half would come unbuttoned. After switching to circle hooks, his hookup percentage jumped to around 95%. Tom emphasizes this improvement so strongly that he calls it the most important takeaway from the entire episode. He's using a 3-ought circle hook, either the Worldwide Sportsman short shank or the Gamakatsu octopus hook. The key is matching hook size to crab size—4-ought for larger crabs, 3-ought for smaller ones. By the end of the episode, when Tom lands a permit, the hook is positioned exactly where he predicted: right in the corner of the mouth. The circle hook explanation and hookup rate comparison starts at 2:01.
Selecting the Right Crab Size and Condition
Not all crabs are created equal for permit fishing. Tom walks through his selection process with several different sized crabs in the livewell. He shows a tiny crab that he considers too small—permit will eat it, but it doesn't have enough weight to cast effectively. Then he demonstrates two slightly larger crabs that are closer to his preferred size. One has an egg sack hanging off the back, which Tom avoids based on advice from his friend Rich. According to Rich, crabs with egg sacks die much faster, and Tom has noticed this pattern holds true. He chooses a crab without the egg sack that has just enough weight for casting distance. The selection process isn't random—it's based on availability throughout the year, casting weight requirements, and crab longevity in the water. Tom stresses that keeping the crab alive is critical because permit respond to movement, not just smell. The full crab selection breakdown starts at 2:56.
See Tom's exact hook placement technique and crab rigging method
The Precise Hook Placement Method That Keeps Crabs Alive
This is where Tom's tutorial gets technical in the best way. He holds up the crab and points out the coloration along the edge of the shell—there's a colored portion and then it turns white. If you push the hook too far into the white part, the crab dies quickly. Tom wants the hook positioned right on the edge, barely into that white section. He pushes just the tip of the hook in, then rolls it through. Instead of forcing the hook through and breaking the shell, he uses a drilling motion—twisting the hook back and forth like a drill bit until just the barb pops through. This technique prevents the hook from backing out and positions it upward so that when the crab falls through the water and a permit bites, the hook slides right into the corner of the fish's mouth. Tom demonstrates this on camera, and later when he catches a permit, he shows exactly where the hook set: right in the corner of the mouth, just as he predicted. The detailed hook placement demonstration starts at 4:47.
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SubscribeThe Complete Tackle Setup for Live Crab Permit Fishing
Tom keeps his permit setup straightforward. He's fishing a seven-foot Saint Croix 8'17" Avid rod with 10 to 15 pound Daiwa J-Braid line. The leader is 20 to 25 pound fluorocarbon tied directly to the braid. No complicated rigging, no heavy weight, just the crab and the circle hook. Tom emphasizes that when permit fishing with live bait, you want as little hardware as possible between the crab and the fish. The movement of a live crab is the attraction—legs kicking, swimming motion—and that's what triggers the eat. Tom contrasts this with fly fishing or jig fishing for permit, where nothing is moving. With a live crab, the permit wants to eat it because it's alive and active. The tackle setup supports that natural presentation without interfering with it. Tom walks through the complete rod, reel, and line setup at 5:49.
Don't miss this one.
Tom proves his technique with a hookup right in the corner of the mouth.
Key Takeaways
- Switching to circle hooks increased Tom's permit hookup rate from approximately 50% to 95%—the single most important change you can make for permit fishing with live bait
- Hook size matters: use a 3-ought circle hook for smaller crabs and a 4-ought for larger crabs, with Tom preferring Worldwide Sportsman or Gamakatsu octopus hooks
- Avoid crabs with egg sacks—they die much faster in the water and won't stay lively enough to trigger strikes
- The hook placement technique involves positioning the hook right on the edge of the white part of the shell, then drilling it through rather than forcing it to prevent shell breakage
- Permit respond to movement, not just smell—keeping the crab alive and active is critical for getting bites
- Tom's setup is simple: seven-foot Saint Croix Avid rod, 10-15 pound Daiwa J-Braid, and 20-25 pound fluorocarbon leader with no additional hardware
- When rigged correctly, the circle hook will set itself in the corner of the permit's mouth almost every time
Final Thoughts from Tom
I wanted to put this How 2 Tuesday together because permit fishing intimidates a lot of anglers, but it doesn't have to. The circle hook change alone will transform your success rate if you're still using J-hooks. I've seen it happen over and over with clients—that simple switch makes a massive difference.
The hook placement technique takes a little practice, but once you get the feel for it, you'll keep those crabs alive much longer. And when you're permit fishing, every extra minute that crab stays lively in the water increases your odds. Captain Scott Brown and I had a great day filming this one in the Keys, and getting to show that hookup right in the corner of the mouth at the end was the perfect way to prove the method works.
If you're planning a permit trip or just want to add this technique to your arsenal, watch the full demonstration. Seeing the hook placement and crab selection process on video makes it much easier to replicate when you're on the water.
Frequently Asked Questions
What size circle hook is best for permit fishing?
Tom Rowland recommends a 3-ought circle hook for smaller crabs and a 4-ought for larger crabs. He prefers the Worldwide Sportsman short shank circle hook or the Gamakatsu octopus hook. Match your hook size to your crab size for optimal presentation.
Where do you hook a crab for permit fishing?
Hook the crab right on the edge where the colored part of the shell meets the white section. Push just the tip through and use a drilling motion to twist the hook until the barb pops through. This keeps the crab alive longer and positions the hook point upward for better hooksets.
Why are circle hooks better for permit fishing?
Circle hooks dramatically improve hookup rates for permit. Tom Rowland's hookup percentage increased from about 50% with traditional hooks to approximately 95% with circle hooks. The circle hook design allows it to slide into the corner of the permit's mouth and set itself without requiring an aggressive hookset.
What tackle setup does Tom Rowland use for permit?
Tom uses a seven-foot Saint Croix 8'17" Avid rod with 10-15 pound Daiwa J-Braid line and a 20-25 pound fluorocarbon leader. The setup is simple with no additional hardware—just the braid-to-fluorocarbon connection, the leader, and the circle hook with live crab.
Should you avoid crabs with egg sacks for permit fishing?
Yes, crabs with egg sacks die much faster according to Tom Rowland's experience and advice from Captain Rich. When selecting crabs from the livewell, choose ones without the egg sack hanging off the back to ensure the bait stays lively longer in the water.
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Tom Rowland
Tom Rowland is a professional fishing guide and host of the Tom Rowland Podcast. Based in the Florida Keys, Tom specializes in saltwater fishing techniques and shares decades of on-the-water experience through his How 2 Tuesday tutorial series. In this episode, Tom demonstrates permit fishing methods alongside Captain Scott Brown, breaking down the exact rigging, hook selection, and bait presentation techniques he relies on when guiding clients. His practical teaching style focuses on the small details that make the biggest difference in fishing success.
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