Forrest Galante: Conservation, Balance, and Hunting for Animals Thought Extinct

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Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 848 is my conversation with wildlife biologist and Discovery Channel host Forrest Galante. Known for Shark Week, Naked and Afraid, and his own show Extinct or Alive, Forrest searches for animals presumed extinct and has rediscovered eight species lost to science, including the Fernandina Island tortoise. We talk about his upbringing in Zimbabwe, how a Naked and Afraid appearance redirected his career into wildlife media, sharks in Florida, and his hard-nosed, realist view of conservation.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Who is Forrest Galante?

Forrest Galante is a wildlife biologist, conservationist, and television host known for the Discovery Channel, Shark Week, Naked and Afraid, and his own series Extinct or Alive. Raised in Zimbabwe and Southern Africa, he is a lifelong angler, free diver, and spear fisherman who pivoted from academic science to wildlife media. He has rediscovered eight animal species that had been declared extinct or lost to science.

What is Extinct or Alive?

Extinct or Alive is the show Forrest Galante created and co-created to search for animals declared extinct. He explains that once a species is labeled extinct, funding and hope dry up, so he set out to prove that designation is sometimes wrong. He and his team built a database of roughly 1,600 species they believed could still exist and have confirmed eight.

What was Forrest Galante's biggest rediscovery?

Forrest describes the Fernandina Island tortoise in the Galapagos as the most meaningful. The animal had been seen only once in 114 years before he found a living female on Isla Fernandina. He calls picking up that 40-pound tortoise, one of the rarest creatures on Earth, the best moment of his life.

How does Forrest Galante decide which extinct animals to look for?

He uses a mix of gut instinct and a structured checklist: where the animal was last seen, who declared it extinct and why, whether sufficient habitat and prey remain, and whether there are credible local sightings. With the Fernandina tortoise, satellite images, green spaces, and a tortoise scientist's account of bite marks on cactus were enough for him to go.

What is Forrest Galante's view on conservation?

Forrest has come to see conservation as a war that has been losing since it started. He argues the system is broken by infighting, bureaucracy, and scientists fighting for grants and papers rather than for the animals. He points to the ethical hunter and angler, who fund conservation through self-imposed taxes on gear, as the practical middle ground between extremes.

Where can I listen to Forrest Galante on the Tom Rowland Podcast?

Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 848 with Forrest Galante is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the Tom Rowland Podcast feed. The audio version is linked at the top of this page.

Why I Wanted Forrest On the Show

I had been following Forrest's work for a while before we recorded, and what got me was how much of his world overlaps with mine. He targets rare species, reads animal behavior, and built an audience around a dangerous pursuit, which sounds exactly like what we do with fish and sharks. He is also a wildlife biologist who went from a research paper that got 400 reads to a show that millions watched, and he used that reach to change how people think about extinction. I wanted to hear the whole arc, and his honest take on conservation, in his own words.

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How Does a C-Minus Student Become a Wildlife Biologist?

Forrest is the first to admit he barely got into university and squeaked through chemistry, yet he aced the biology of fishes because he was obsessed with it. He talks about growing up in Zimbabwe fishing for bream, tiger fish, and giant vundu catfish, and how singular focus on animals shaped everything. Hear that story in the episode.

Why Did He Trade Science for Television?

Forrest explains the exact day he switched from traditional wildlife science to wildlife media, after a research paper reached 400 people and a Naked and Afraid episode reached four million. He walks through the years of ramen, a broken-down car, and doors slammed in his face before Extinct or Alive got made. Listen to how he stuck with it.

How Do You Find an Animal Nobody Has Seen in a Century?

Forrest breaks down the checklist behind an expedition and the gut instinct that scientists are not supposed to admit to. He tells the story of the Fernandina Island tortoise, seen once in 114 years, and the moment he picked up the rarest creature on Earth. Worth hearing in full.

Is Conservation a War We Are Losing?

This is the part of the conversation that stuck with me. Forrest argues conservation has been losing since it started, dragged down by greed, bureaucracy, and scientists fighting for the next grant instead of for the animals. He makes a sharp case for the ethical hunter and angler as the realist middle ground. Listen to that section.

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Final Thoughts From Me

What I take away from Forrest is that obsession plus reach can actually move the needle. He turned a singular focus on animals into a platform that has reopened the book on species the world had given up on.

His view of conservation is not comfortable, but it is honest, and it lines up with what a lot of sportsmen already know about who really funds this fight. Listen to the whole thing.

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People & Brands Mentioned

Forrest Galante · Discovery Channel · Shark Week · Naked and Afraid · Extinct or Alive · Fernandina Island tortoise · Galapagos · Zimbabwe · Santa Barbara · Tom Rowland (host)

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About Forrest Galante

Forrest Galante is a wildlife biologist, conservationist, and television host best known for the Discovery Channel, Shark Week, Naked and Afraid, and his own series Extinct or Alive. Raised in Zimbabwe and Southern Africa, he is a lifelong angler, free diver, and spear fisherman who left academic science for wildlife media. He has rediscovered eight species declared extinct or lost to science, including the Fernandina Island tortoise in the Galapagos, and is an outspoken, realist voice on the politics and economics of conservation.

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Episode Transcript

[Verbatim excerpt from the recorded conversation — Deepgram Nova-2 transcription, ~14,568 words total for the full episode. Source: Tom Rowland Podcast production archive, EP 848.] Tom Rowland: What's going on, everybody? We have a fantastic guest for you today, Forrest Galante from the Discovery Channel. You've seen him on Shark Week. You've seen him all over the place. He started out on Naked and Afraid, and then he had a show called Extinct or Alive, which I think is really, really cool, where he would look for animals thought to be extinct. We had a great conversation here today about how that work has anything to do with wildlife conservation and what his ideas of wildlife conservation are, and how we can all do a better job with that. I really like that we talk about sharks in Florida. So I love it that he was on — I think you're gonna love it too. Share it with somebody that you like or know, and we'll be back next week with another awesome guest just like Forrest. So here we go with Forrest Galante. Forrest Galante: I'm wildlife biologist Forrest Galante, and this is the Tom Rowland podcast. Tom Rowland: Forrest, what's going on, man? Forrest Galante: How are you, Tom? Tom Rowland: I'm doing great. I gotta say, man, I'm a fan — I've been following you on social media, you have an incredible Instagram. Forrest Galante: Really? Thanks, buddy. Tom Rowland: The engagement that you have with your audience is really impressive — it's very, very good. But just all the stuff you're doing, man, it's really cool. So I'm really excited to talk to you about a bunch of this stuff. Forrest Galante: Yeah, well, thanks for having me. Anytime I can kick back and chat fishing with somebody who gets it makes me happy. So I'm stoked to be here, man. Tom Rowland: So what's your story with fishing? How did you become such a fisherman? Did that start as a young kid with a mentor, or how did you get started in fishing? Forrest Galante: Yeah, I mean, I can actually tell you the exact moment. So my family — you know, I grew up in Southern Africa, and my family spent most of their time in the bush. And I don't particularly remember this, but I've been told the story by my mother many, many times — when I was four years old, we went to Mozambique, which is where we used to take our beach vacations, and we pulled up a spotted rock cod that was about 12 inches long, and apparently my eyes just went the size of saucers, and that was it — I was hooked. All I wanted to do was fish from then on. And growing up in Zimbabwe, we had the Zambezi River — I had a dam on the farm that I grew up on, so I was fishing for bream, for what we call tilapia here, tiger fish, vundu, which are giant catfish. Fishing was truly my first love of anything wild, and the pursuit of anything wild. Tom Rowland: That's awesome. You know, there's so many people that I know that fishing was their introduction into biology or something like that, and for so many people, myself included, wasn't really that interested in school. But when I started fly fishing, all of a sudden I found myself being an entomologist and reading books about entomology, and my biology teacher couldn't get me to pay attention for five seconds, but the act of fishing and knowing, man, if I know what that bug is, then I can probably catch that fish — that hooked me. Forrest Galante: Tom, I was a solid C-minus student through most of — I barely got into university. So just like what you just sort of explained, my passions came from — I'm very singularly focused. It's on animals, and all animals — fishing's one element of it. Reptiles, mammals, birds, you name it, that's the thing I'm interested in. I'm a complete and utter Philistine when it comes to music, arts, pop culture, any of those things. And funnily enough, one of the hardest classes I ever took was, as an undergrad, allegedly the hardest class, was the biology of fishes, and everybody said, oh, this is a really tough upper-division class, but because I was such a fanatical fisherman and free diver and spear fisherman, I walked into that lab and walked out fifteen minutes later with a 100 percent on the final exam. And yet I could barely squeeze through chemistry, because it had nothing to do with wildlife. [The conversation continues into his pivot from academic science to wildlife television after a research paper reached 400 people while a Naked and Afraid episode reached four million, the search for and rediscovery of the Fernandina Island tortoise, and his hard-nosed view of conservation, as reflected in the article above. Full verbatim transcript on file in the podcast production archive.]

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