How Many Turns Makes the Strongest Non-Slip Mono Loop? Knot Wars

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On a non-slip mono loop in 12-pound fluorocarbon, the sweet spot is three to four turns: two turns held 10.63 pounds, three held 10.11, four dropped to 9.02, five was 9.42, and six was 9.75, so more turns does not mean stronger. In this How 2 Tuesday I close out the loop-knot testing by finding how many turns make the strongest non-slip mono loop, one of my favorite loop knots for light tippet.

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Frequently Asked Questions

How many turns make the strongest non-slip mono loop?

On 12-pound fluorocarbon, three turns was the strongest in this test, with the sweet spot sitting between two and four turns. The numbers were 10.63 pounds at two turns, 10.11 at three, 9.02 at four, 9.42 at five, and 9.75 at six. The takeaway is that piling on more turns does not make the non-slip mono loop stronger; the lower turn counts held best, and three was the winner for this line.

Does more turns make a non-slip mono loop stronger?

No, and that surprises a lot of people. In this test strength was highest in the two-to-four-turn range and tended to fall off at five and six turns. So unlike a knot where you might assume more wraps equal more strength, the non-slip mono loop has a clear sweet spot at the lower end. Adding extra turns past three or four gave back strength rather than gaining it.

Is the non-slip mono loop really close to one hundred percent?

Close. Lefty Kreh popularized the non-slip mono loop and claimed it tests near one hundred percent, and at three turns on 12-pound line my strongest result was only about a pound off the line's rating, which is very good. It has also beaten other loop knots in my earlier tests on light fluorocarbon. So it lives up to its reputation as one of the strongest loop knots for light tippet.

What line is the non-slip mono loop best for?

Light fluorocarbon tippet. I tested it in 12-pound Daiwa J-Fluoro, which is my favorite leader and tippet line, and I use it on both fly and spin. The non-slip mono loop has proven stronger than many other loop knots when you are dealing with lighter fluorocarbon, so it is my go-to whenever I want a loop knot on light tippet for species like bonefish, permit, and redfish.

Why does the strongest turn count change between line brands?

Because different manufacturers, diameters, and finishes can all affect breaking strength. The three-turn sweet spot I found on Daiwa J-Fluoro might not be identical in another brand, where four or five turns could test a little stronger. That is why I tell people to run the test in the specific tippet they fish, with a scale, so they know the strongest version of the knot for their exact setup.

How should I test a loop knot at home?

Tie several versions in the same line, lubricate and seat each the same way, and pull them on a scale or force tester, recording where each breaks. Change only one variable at a time, like the number of turns, so your comparison is fair. Doing this with your own tippet is the easiest way to find the strongest version of a knot and to gain real confidence in the connections you fish.

How to Test Turn Count on a Non-Slip Mono Loop

  1. Tie two through six turns the same way. Pre-tie a non-slip mono loop with two, three, four, five, and six turns, all in the same line, lubricated and pulled tight the same way, so the only variable is the turn count.
  2. Use your real tippet. Tie them in the line you actually fish. Here it was 12-pound Daiwa J-Fluoro, a favorite leader and tippet that works on both fly and spin.
  3. Pull each on a force tester. Pull every loop on a digital force tester and record the peak. The numbers were 10.63, 10.11, 9.02, 9.42, and 9.75 pounds for two through six turns.
  4. Read the trend, not just one pull. More turns did not mean stronger. Two through four turns were the sweet spot, and strength tended to drop into five and six. Three turns was the strongest here, close to the line's full rating.
  5. Re-test with your own brand. Because different brands and finishes can shift the result, test the non-slip mono loop in whatever tippet you fish regularly. You might find four or five turns is best in another line, so confirm before you trust it.

Closing Out the Loop-Knot Testing

Today is about one of my favorite loop knots, the non-slip mono loop. In all the knot testing we have done, whenever a loop knot comes up, this one keeps proving itself, especially on lighter fluorocarbon. Lefty Kreh popularized it and claimed it was near one hundred percent strength, and I agree it is very strong. We have already shown it beats other loop knots on light line, so now the question is whether tying it differently changes the strength.

How Many Turns Did I Test?

I tied the non-slip mono loop with two, three, four, five, and six turns, all in 12-pound Daiwa J-Fluoro, my favorite leader and tippet that I fish on both fly and spin. Then I pulled each on the Next Tech digital force tester. My usual assumption would be that more turns means more strength, but I have learned not to assume anything before the scale tells me the truth.

Where the Sweet Spot Landed

The results were genuinely interesting: 10.63, 10.11, 9.02, 9.42, and 9.75 pounds for two through six turns. More turns did not mean stronger. The sweet spot sat between two and four turns, with three the strongest, only about a pound off the line's full rating. Luckily, three turns is what I had already been tying. As always, test this in your own tippet, since a different brand might favor four or five turns. The full breakdown is in the episode above.

Watch or listen above to get the full breakdown in my own words.

People & Topics Mentioned

  • Knot Wars knot-strength series
  • Non-slip mono loop
  • Lefty Kreh
  • Daiwa J-Fluoro 12-pound tippet
  • Next Tech digital force tester
  • Blood knot (comparison)
  • Bonefish, permit, and redfish flies

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