Graham Tayloe - Turkey Strategy Part I | Tom Rowland Podcast Ep. 49

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On Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 49 (How 2 Tuesday #14), I sit down with Graham Tayloe to break down turkey hunting strategy in part one of two. Graham is a former professional turkey guide who made the final round of the turkey calling world championships, and he is the best woodsman I have ever seen. I asked him a simple question: how do you kill a turkey? His answer was patience, terrain, and reading the bird, with calling as a last resort. This is the field-tested approach I keep coming back to.

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Frequently Asked Questions

How do you kill a turkey if you have to?

If you have to kill a turkey, simplify and lean on woodsmanship instead of gear. Put one call in your pocket, get a good seat with a real butt pad, and bring patience. Do not break the golden rules and let the bird know it is being hunted. Use the terrain, figure out where the gobbler is headed, and make calling your last resort rather than your first move.

Why should you wait five minutes after a turkey gobbles?

When you owl hoot and a turkey gobbles in daylight, the first thing Graham Tayloe says to do is sit still and think for at least five minutes. In that window another bird could fire off, or a hen could yelp right in front of you, and that changes your whole plan. Most hunters run straight at the gobble, but giving yourself time to listen and analyze keeps you from blowing the setup.

What is the bubble in turkey hunting?

The bubble is the roughly 80-yard zone around a gobbling turkey where calling actually works in your favor, and it applies to hunting in foliage rather than open, naked woods. If you penetrate that bubble and fire him up, he will often leave his hens and come about 40 yards, which is a shot. Set up 150 yards out and the bird may take a few steps, lose interest, and walk the other way.

How do you hunt turkeys when the woods are bare with no leaves?

When the woods are naked with no foliage, Graham Tayloe says to throw the bubble away entirely. Turkeys can see you coming from 400 yards down a dirt road, so calling and pressuring them early only educates birds and thins out your area. The better move is to shadow them, leave them alone, and wait until the season matures enough to hunt them without depleting the herd.

Should you call to turkeys a lot or a little?

Use your calling so sparingly that another hunter sitting in the same woods would not even know you are there. Loud crow calls or a worn-out box call give away your position to people and turkeys alike, while soft yelping keeps you hidden. If you can trick the person, you can trick the turkey, so calling should be your third resort behind terrain and woodsmanship.

Why should you leave some gobbling turkeys alone in the morning?

A common mistake is hunting every turkey you hear gobbling at first light. Graham Tayloe says to only work one or two birds and leave the rest untouched, what he calls keeping them Virgil. Those undisturbed birds are cards in your pocket, so you can slide under one the next morning or slip into a roost site in the afternoon undetected, and your odds are far better on a turkey that does not know it is being hunted.

How to Kill a Turkey With Woodsmanship Instead of Gear

Here is the approach Graham Tayloe laid out for me, step by step, for the times you simply have to get it done.

  1. Wait and think before you move. After you owl hoot and a turkey gobbles in daylight, sit still and give yourself at least five minutes to listen and analyze. Another bird could gobble or a hen could yelp nearby, and that information changes your whole plan.
  2. Put yourself in the gobbler's shoes. Think about what you would do if you were the turkey. Most birds fly down and stay within about 100 yards of the roost, especially easterns, so figure out where he is headed before you make a sound.
  3. Read the terrain. Look for fields and creeks. A gobbler will usually parallel a creek instead of crossing it and will drift toward open ground, so use that to predict his path and pick your setup.
  4. Penetrate the bubble before you call. Close the distance to roughly 80 yards of the bird while staying hidden. Inside that bubble a fired-up gobbler will often leave his hens and come about 40 yards, which puts him in range.
  5. Call sparingly and softly. Use soft yelping and call so little that another hunter would not know you are in the woods. Make calling your third resort behind terrain and woodsmanship, because if you trick the person you trick the turkey.
  6. Leave birds undisturbed for later. Only work one or two of the turkeys you hear gobbling and leave the rest alone. Those untouched birds are cards in your pocket for the next morning or an afternoon slip into the roost.

Graham walks through every one of these in his own words, with the stories behind them, in the episode. Press play in the player above.

Why I Wanted Graham Tayloe to Break This Down

I have had the chance to go turkey hunting with some really good hunters, but Graham stands out from the rest. He has guided turkeys professionally, he made the final round of the turkey calling world championships, and watching him move through the woods convinced me he is the best woodsman I have ever been around. When I asked him how to kill a turkey, he told me there are really two answers, how to do it with a buddy and how to do it alone if you just have to. I wanted both, and he delivers them in the episode. Press play in the player above.

What Surprised Me Most About His Approach

I went in expecting Graham to talk about calls and decoys, and instead he told me turkey hunting is one of the most overanalyzed sports in the outdoors. His point stuck with me: the bird is already trying to come to you, and most of the time people just get in their own way. He treats calling as a third resort behind terrain and patience, and he leans on putting himself inside the gobbler's head until he can see the woods through the turkey's eyes. Hearing how he thinks like the bird changed how I picture a setup. He explains the whole mindset in the episode, so press play in the player above.

The Lesson That Carries Over to the Water

What hit home for me is how much of this applies past the turkey woods. Graham talks about leaving birds undisturbed so they never learn they are being hunted, and he compared it to chasing tarpon that have not been pressured. The odds swing hard in your favor when the animal does not know you are there, whether that is a gobbler at 40 yards or a fish on the flat. That through-line is exactly why I wanted him on the show. He ties it all together in the episode, so press play in the player above.

Final Thoughts From Me

The day after this conversation, the thing I kept turning over was how simple Graham makes it sound. Slow down, think for five minutes, read the terrain, and stay so quiet that neither the hunter beside you nor the turkey knows you are there.

This is part one of two, and next week Graham follows up with a lot more on calling and how to think and talk like a turkey. If you hunt turkeys at all, this is the foundation, and the rest builds on it. Press play in the player above.

People & Topics Mentioned

Graham Tayloe · turkey calling world championships · eastern wild turkeys · the bubble · owl hooting · roosting and shadowing turkeys · woodsmanship · butt pad and patience · Alabama and Tennessee turkey hunting · How 2 Tuesday · Saltwater Experience

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About Graham Tayloe

Graham Tayloe is a turkey hunter from the South who has worked as a professional turkey guide and made the final round of the turkey calling world championships. Known as one of the best woodsmen around, he approaches hunting by thinking like the gobbler, reading terrain, and using calls sparingly, an old-school, patience-first style he shares across this two-part How 2 Tuesday conversation.

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